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Dear Arthur and Sandra:

Well, I just have a question that came up when I went to visit [another church's] fellowship. Their pastor taught on Matt 23:8-12, and he and their leaders take the passage literally and ask people not to call them Pastor so-and-so, and he believes that it is a sin! I've never heard of this passage taken literally before, and I discussed with him about it after. And though he agrees that Jesus is addressing the pride of the Pharisess and scribes and how they took pride in their standings even though they acted in hypocrisy behind the title, he still contends that Jesus is straight forwardly saying that we should just acknowledge all in the body as brothers and sisters. So I was hoping you can give some insight on it. =) Thank you!

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. It's hard for me to believe that the pastors at [that church] would take it that far. I would have to disagree with them.

The question is not what you call someone but what meaning do you pour into what you call them. For instance, I happen to have met people whose names ended in Christ or began with Jesus. Am I not going to call them by their name because they are not the Jesus or the Christ that I love and serve? Of course not, because when I call them by their names, I mean them and not my Jesus or Christ.

As stated in the attachment I'm sending you - please read the commentary on the previous verses carefully as they set the stage for Jesus' remarks in verses 8+ - the Pharisees desired these names and titles because of what they connoted and of the honor and reverence attributed in that they poured into those titles. The Pharisaical teaching that they promoted to believers was that of intrinsic difference in worth and honor and value between those who held these titles and those who didn't.

Jesus is saying to both sides (the teacher and the student), don't confer on another human extra or less intrinsic value and worth (a la the way Catholics view Mother Theresa or the Pope) and don't allow anyone to confer on you extra or less value or worth either. We are all woeful sinners - all our righteousness is as filthy rags (Isaiah). Paul, who was a Pharisee of Pharisees, of the tribe of Benjamin, the most zealous keeper of the Law, etc. called all of his righteousness skubalon, which is the Greek word for excrement or dung (Phil. 3), in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus his Lord.

The real and only value and worth of someone is found IN Christ Jesus! The Pharisees were teaching otherwise; thus, Jesus' admonishment.

Elsewhere in the NT(1 Cor. 12), we see that some are called to be ...what?...teachers, prophets, apostles, etc. We see later in the NT that there are offices of deacons, overseers, elders, etc. 1 Tim. 3 gives the qualifications for the office of bishop and deacon, etc. James 3 tells that teachers, literally in the Greek, "masters" are held to a stricter standard and will receive a stricter judgment.

Paul called himself Timothy's spiritual father. Elsewhere, we see admonitions to leaders. All these are titles.

Practically speaking, titles are needed to be able to delineate our roles, jobs, and service. At church, when I'm a teacher, so-and-so is a technical guy, so-and-so is a chairman, committee member, etc. we're not conferring more or less worth or dignity to anyone but are distinguishing our function. If we all just called ourselves brothers and sisters, which is exactly what we are in terms of worth, it would be too confusing and wouldn't give us the full sense of the responsibility we've been called to. That's why Jesus changed Peter's name to Rock - to give him a sense of who He wanted Peter to be.

I can appreciate the [church's] pastors' concern but would have to say, if you are accurate in your understanding of what they believe, that they are incorrect. If they say it's sin to do it, then they would be guilty of doing what they are trying not to do, namely, building false standards for righteousness a la the Pharisees.

I gotta go now.

Arthur

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